Octane provides a good value in their recumbent elliptical, their standard ellipticals are on the other end of the value spectrum. The Q35c is Octane's low priced elliptical. Their equivalent of Precor's EFX 5.21. Even if they priced it like Precor at $1599 it really wouldn't be as good of a value. Since Precor reset the price scale for quality machine this machine should sell for $1399 or $1499 to give you comparable value to the 5.21.